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| After visiting the new USU Swing Club BETA website (www.usu.edu/swing/beta), what do you think? |
| It's great! I wish I had one just like it. |
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25% |
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| It's pretty good, although I think the color scheme needs a bit of tweaking. |
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37% |
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| I think it's fine... Just like any other site out there. |
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12% |
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| My browser doesn't support it. |
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| It's kind of buggy. You need to spend some more time on it. |
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12% |
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| It's crap. You need to go back to web design school. |
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12% |
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| Don't know. Don't care. Never visited the site. |
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0% |
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The Cap'n
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 Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:12 am Post subject: New USU Swing Club Website |
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In light of all the polls being made, I thought I'd make one, too.
In the next couple of days, I will be replacing the old USU Swing Club site with our new site. You can check out the beta version here: www.usu.edu/swing
Let me know what you think. If you find any bugs, I'd appreciate it if you post them here.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:53 am Post subject: |
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I voted it's crap, just so that we can have another flame war!!
It's actually not too bad. I think the colors scheme could be a little softer. I think you have some very hard edges (not very web 2.0!  that could be softer. And you really like JS huh?
But overall, it's pretty good and definitely a step up from USU's last/current? site. |
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bobthecow
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:00 am Post subject: |
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yay flame war!
p.s. cap'n: you forgot to put in a poll option to distract pops...
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popthestack
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:32 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, what's up with that? I had to actually pick a real poll option instead of the easy distraction.
I voted buggy.
1. I first visited with JavaScript disabled (as I always do unless I explicitly allow a site) and I kinda laughed at it at first because the site was completley useless.
2. I'm able to select from the drop downs on the top menu, but if I try to select anything in the popouts on the side menu they instantly disappear before I click them. I use Firefox.
Also, I vote against the iframe stuff.
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bobthecow
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:45 am Post subject: |
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| popthestack wrote: | | ...I vote against the iframe stuff. |
ditto. imho, you shouldn't use an iframe unless you can pull off something as slick as gmail or google maps...
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:46 pm Post subject: |
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| Buzz wrote: | | I think you have some very hard edges (not very web 2.0! that could be softer. |
That's the eventual plan. As soon as I can figure out how to do it, I will. By the way, I hate you too. | Buzz wrote: | | And you really like JS huh? |
Yeah, it's a bit excessive... I found out that (so far) the only way I could include a header and a footer on the USU's clubs server is through JavaScript. I'm looking into the "include" functionality... that'll remove most of the JS. I know I can do it in ColdFusion, but since I don't have a copy on my own computer, it makes website editing a bit tedious.
| popthestack wrote: | | 2. I'm able to select from the drop downs on the top menu, but if I try to select anything in the popouts on the side menu they instantly disappear before I click them. I use Firefox. |
I use Firefox, too... weird. I actually programmed it with Firefox in mind and had a booger of a time getting it to display in IE. If you have any accessibility tweaks you can suggest, I'll gladly look into them.
| popthestack wrote: | | I vote against the iframe stuff. |
I've read somewhere that it's "bad programming practice" to use iframes. If I can discover a better way to accomplish what I'd like to do without iframes, I'm all over it.
By the way, note that the entire site was programmed in Notepad. I still haven't found a suitable "visual-based" editor.
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bobthecow
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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i hand code most everything in Kate (linux/KDE), Smultron (OS X) or gVim... they all do syntax hilighting, so they save me some trouble, but they don't get in the way by giving me extra junk i don't want (ala dreamweaver).
but when i'm messing with tables, it's dreamweaver all the way.
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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I haven't used a visual editor in a really long time. In Windows I use UltraEdit, EditPlus, and for light editing I use Notepad2 (Notepad2 is basically just notepad with syntax highlighting and few extra features). In Linux I use Vi.
| bobthecow wrote: | | but when i'm messing with tables, it's dreamweaver all the way. |
I was the same way, but now I don't have dreamweaver. I hate tables.
What do you mean you can't include a header and footer without JS? What kind of weird restrictions do they have on the sites you can create?
If you want a visual editor, try http://www.kompozer.net/ - based on what was once Nvu (which was Mozilla based).
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| Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:57 pm Post subject: |
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Hmm....quite a few thigns seem to have been brought in from the stuff that I did two years ago...definetly better than the current one. Still has some of the bugs with the calendering that I never fixed 
Also the colors....traditionally the colors have been blue because it is the AGGIE color. In fact ICT services used ot dictate the color templates for all USU departments's website...
Anyway...I will shut up...I did not vote |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2007 7:36 am Post subject: |
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| popthestack wrote: | | What do you mean you can't include a header and footer without JS? What kind of weird restrictions do they have on the sites you can create? |
It's not the server... It's the programmer. I tried the xhtml way, I posted it, I failed. It's still on my to-do list to figure it out. If you know anywhere that has any good code examples... hint, hint... I've never taken a web editing class. Everything I know is from poring over HTML code, testing, and the occasional example code snippet. There are still some basic functions that are a mystery to me.
P.S. I actually use Notepad++. It also highlights code. I'm very pleased with it.
| i.rage wrote: | | Also the colors....traditionally the colors have been blue because it is the AGGIE color. In fact ICT services used ot dictate the color templates for all USU departments's website... |
Good thing we're not a department...
Seriously, though, IT will soon be regulating the auxiliary website layout and color schemes. They have to apply them to the departments before they can force the clubs to do so.
I hope I'm long gone before that happens.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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So I've changed our color scheme to something more USU-ish. It seems a little less painful to look at.
In spite of all the JavaScript issues, I think I'll be switching it over tonight. We'll see.
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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So I've been in contact with the USU webmaster. It turns out that all he needed to do was enable SSI for the Swing website. Things work much better now. The site is even moderately navigable with JS disabled. I believe it's even a bit more search-engine-friendly.
I've still left a couple of iframes until I can decide what I'd like to do with them. Most likely, nothing.
The only problem I can find now is I had to change all of our site address extensions to shtml instead of htm. I figure there'll be a couple of broken links. I don't want to go to all the trouble to redirect every page.
Oh yeah... one last thing... I still need to doctor our logo. Apparently, it lost some quality with the color change... I'll get on it sometime. I'm tired.
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